Cory Doctorow on interop (41:45): "At a certain point, when you have to use engineers to block interoperability instead of lawyers, then you just give up. Because lawyers solve the problem for ever, right. Lawyers teach every financier, every entrepreneur and every user ‘don’t trust interoperable solutions’. Engineers they have to fight and fight and fight and eventually they lose in these wars of attrition. And so once you take away the lawyers the company sue for peace." #