Why the world has to be built by innovators rather than just hoped for by optimists Ep#2191 (Keen On Podcast) - Great discussion between Andrew and Keith, covering I think some of the more important tech topics du jour. I find their occasional somewhat different use of language kind of fascinating, and listening them both explore that as a sort re-occuring side quest to the main show topics is really eye opening. Andrew is quite ruthless in keeping them on track, and it’s very effective, they stay on topic much more than other shows. Some useful off pistes but not too much. I think that’s part of what gives their show an interesting and unique flavour. I love the variety you get in podcasting. podcastindex.org #